You’re lying right now!

The old saying, "How can we miss you if you won't go away" doesn't begin to say how I feel about these people. It seems like no matter where you find the most senseless violence and human rights abuses, you find the radical Muslims. As long as I have been watching the news (about 30 years) I have seen these guys walk into public places and blow themselves up, usually in Israel but now all over the world. When we try to do business them, set up shop or even just visit, there are huge problems. There is no negotiating with these people and we can't seem to make them go away. Even worse, they seem to be spreading this madness to what used to be civilized countries all over the world. Why can't governments stand up to them, particularly the secular Arab nations and shut down this nonsense?!

It almost seems like they don't do anything about it as long as the extremists focus their anger against the Jews and the USA. I read that when we learned of the events of 911, Arabs that live in our country were celebrating in the streets of near DC! We've tried to be PC in this country but it has done no good at all. Can you believe the violence occurring over a few stupid cartoons?

Everything I have read about Islam sounds like it would be a real good religion for some folks. Lots of tradition discipline and culture that actually has more in common with Christianity and Judaism that we realize. So why are there such hard lines drawn between Islam and other religions? Even more strange, why do Sunni Muslims and Shiite Muslims hate each other so? The 'religion of peace' seems to be having a hard time living up to its moniker. Perhaps, we only hear about the bad folks because it makes for such good TV. Al Jazeera likes to sensationalize Americans at their worst and it seems we get a lot of bad Arab press here. So what's the deal? How do people get so crazed that they're willing to destroy anything and everybody over a cartoon or because they simply not like them? Can anyone tell me?!

How long do you think it will take conservatives to get all riled up over this.

Alito Votes to Stay Mo. Execution

Oh no, not another Souter.

Reilly's hand-picked running mate quits race

OK, Trustee, have fun with this one

Guess we'll all be voting Republican for Governor again.

Dems are Bad Times
By the time the year 2000 came around, the Clintons had worn out their welcome. With Whitewater, Nationalized healthcare, blowjobs, giving nuclear secrets to the Chinese, tax increases and the pardoning of scumbags, it's amazing that anyone in America would still say those two were great leaders. Al Gore talking down to everyone and not practicing what he preaches about the environment made him a candidate that wouldn't win the presidency. The fact that he got more votes nationwide was nothing more than an interesting statistic because it didn't matter. John Kerry?! The fact that he is not Bush is not a good enough reason to vote for him and I believe he would have been the worse choice for the country at the time.

W's First Term not Bush
After 911, a lot of democrats I knew admitted they were glad it was Bush in charge and not Gore. He handled that crisis very well and the public gave him the highest ratings for a president ever. When we threw out the Taliban, the world was with us. Although the war in Iraq is still unpopular, there were many reasons to go in with at least some military action there. Inspection violations, Oil for Food program corruption, the capture of several notorious terrrists including the mastermind of many bombings, Abhul Abbas, the threat of a biologic warfare program and a nuclear program. Any WMDs could easily have been smuggled out to Syria or could just be buried in the Iraqi sand. Europe complained loudly only because they were scared of their oil interests in Iraq.

Can you say Trend?
Let's also remember that this isn't just Bush that is changing the country so much. The Senate, House and now the judiciary are dominated by conservatives. Why? Because the public voted them all in! Are you really surprised that conservatives would choose (what the?!)conservatives as judges?! I wonder how it would have gone if the lefties controlled everything? Call me crazy, but I think we would have a court filled will leftwingers! The solution for those that don't like the direction the country has gone since Reagan started it all should walk the talk by voting every chance they get and by living the way they believe is most progressive. The whining has done nothing but make the dems look like the left wing nut jobs they've become.

Hey, Trustee, you're not keeping up your end here. Tell us about how George Bush is making it a safer world for god-fearin', clean livin', gun lovin' people everywhere.

SickOE, the only big disagreement I have was deciding that Bush was the one that "isn't as fucked up as the other choice" Yes Kerry was a terrible candidate, only topped by Gore on the awful candidate meter. My case for Kerry was made brilliantly on the blog Kerry Haters for Kerry.



Pretty much the only reason is that he's not Bush.

Even better at showing the lack of a choice in a comical way was the Jib-Jab Video, This Land. Did you ever see that? Was hysterical.

But comedy aside, there was ample evidence that Bush was not just a moron and a lyar, but surrounded by some of the scarriest people to surround a president since Nixon. You're going to give a guy with a record like that another four years to fuck things up more? No way. I threw my vote away in 2000 and voted for Nader, because I couldn't stomach voting for Gore OR Bush. After seeing Bush in action for four years, I would have voted for anyone over him the second time. Even Gore, probably. Kerry wasn't quite as bad as Gore.

Yes, I think the Republicans have been taken over completely by the right wing since Reagan's time, but I think a good many of true Conservatives have real problems with Bush's foreign policy too. Have you listened to Pat Buchanan lately? He's a right wing nut job at times, but really a pretty smart guy. I actually like to listen to him. He's does a better job than any Democrat at coherently trashing Bush's policies.

I don't think the Democrats have been taken over by the left, as much as they just don't know what the hell they believe in. They were much more to the left back when they were running candidates like McGovern and Mondale, than they are now. Clinton brought them back to the center, and if he hadn't "blown" his opportunity, and then saddled us with Gore, the Democrats could have been that more centrist party that we desperately need.

Talk radio, and cable news shoutfests have been the other dividing point. Common ground doesn't make for good ratings. Just put on a couple loudmouths like Rush and Hannity who will throw out a handful of cliches over and over again to fire up all the "fat and stupids" (actually I think the quote was fat, DRUNK, and stupid) and just sit back and watch the stupidity spread.

I'm tired. Let finish talking this over next week at Kitten's.

If it weren't for strippers and beer, it would be a tough time to live in America boys! Doesn't it seem that ever since Reagan, the two ruling parties have gone to their loony extremes leaving the majority of the country in a big empty hole?! I've become one of many of the voters in this country that go to the ballot box to vote for the guy that isn't as fucked up as the other choice. The third party option is there but until they start winning some local stuff (where they actually can do something) it is more of a throw away vote. Dance for me Angie, will you please?!

I have to admit, W is the kind of guy I'd like at my backyard bar-B-Q, I voted for him twice now but it is only because Al Gore and John Kerry are close to being my least favorite people ever. Who the Hell drives in a fleet of giant SUVs to go lecture people on global warming (Gore) or better still, announce plans to filibuster a supreme court candidtate without enough votes to pull it off from friggin Switzerland?! Another Curley Stout please!

What is really disturbing about the Conservatives these days is the fact that they are driven by the Christian Right. I know these guys well from being in the middle of it all in North Carolina for two years. They have no interest in dialogue with anybody, they think they know all the answers based of course, on their interpretation of the Bible. They have run a powerful campaign to dupe peole into thinking that thisa is what America truly is but I think most people don't realize what their agenda is. Dean Wormer once said "Fat and stupid is a terrible way to go through life" and unfortunately most Americans don't bother with politics all that much. If we voted every four years for the greatest American athlete, we'd get 90% voter turnout! I'll tsalk more about this later, I need another beer. Sure it's only 10am but it must be happy hour somewhere......

Here's a little web poster I just made, based on that line I posted below. Cumon Scott, even a good Republican like you can appreciate this! Especially the little dick suggestion. I bet we can get this to spread around the web.